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Joj joj anri sve si ti kriv

Pa kako si fulao, vidi se ovako "odokativno"

*Nije jako strašno ako je malo van centra, imao sam i ja jedan za apn, napravljen slično u fušu, odokativno u centru, i nikakvih problema, ionako se lanac različito špana kako se vilica kreće kore dolje

daj zakreni taj karb i sve ovako ces to samo nogom otepst 

al i prirubnicu ak mjenjas opet ces imat pizdarija njezina duzina i to sve opet ce morat stelat kolko ja znam nek me ispravi neko ak sam u krivu 

Kako mi je receno da ona dizna 60 nije ler-dizna nego od čoka, vidia sam da se ipak ne moze ofrlje nastelat karb pa sam malo po netu trazia upute za dellorto karb-ove, evo nasa sam neku stranicu koja opisuje do u detalj.

http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/abosco/moto/carb/dellorto/dellorto.html

Procjenjeno je da bi s dell 19 i trokutastim usisom triba imat oko 6 ipo konja, provjerava sam i dell 19 bi po njihovu grafu bia ok, nije ni velik ni mali.



E sad kazu. "usually in conversions an increase in the carburettor size also requires an increase in the main jet size of about 10 % for each 1 mm increase in the choke size, without changing the other setting parts"

Meni je na dell 16 dizna bila 72, karb se povećava za 3 mm tj 30% to bi znacilo da sada triba bit oko 72+3*7.2 = 93, cini mi se puno.

Proba sam nabavit jednu od 90 ali nema ih sada.


E sad mi nije bas jasno ovo stelanje po jacini gasa.



Figure 2 shows the section of a venturi according to the operating periods regulated by the throttle valve opening. In every phase of operation, it is possible to vary and select the optimum setting.

In the idle stage, the idle circuit and idle adjustment is set with the mixture screw and idle-speed screw.

In the "B" progression phase, fuel mixture delivery from the idle hole is steadily replaced by mixture delivery from the progression hole, drawing emulsion mixture from the idle circuit, and in this range, choosing the correct idle jet and throttleslide cutaway is necessary. The throttle valve cutaway slightly affects the carburation up to about half throttle.

In the "C" high-speed period, mixture delivery from the idle circuit and from the progression hole is replaced by mixture from the main circuit and selection of both the atomiser and the tapered needle should then be made.

In the "D" period of full throttle and, with all the circuits of the earlier periods operating correctly, the size of the main jet is now finally selected.

A (od 0 do 1/8 gasa) - u leru se stela sa vijkom smjese i ovim vijkom lera (ne znam kako ga zovete) - to kuzim

B (od 1/8 do 1/4 gasa) - ovisi o ler dizni i throttleslide cutaway - ovo ne kuzim

C (od 1/4 do 3/4 gasa)- ovisi o položaju igle (tapered needle) i  selection of the atomiser - ne kuzim

D (od 3/4 do punog gasa)- ovisi o glavnoj dizni

Ako moze neko pomoc oko B i C.

Ne kuzim ja sta je taj klizni ventil, jel to ovo na slici zaokruženo?

Ma tu iglu jos nekako kuzim ali ja pitam za klizni ventil.

Klizni ventil (slide valve) ima veliki utjecaj na gorivu smjesu u rasponu od 1/8 do 1/2 gasa. Posebice utjece na smjesu izmedju 1/8 i 1/4 i onda mu utjecaj polako otpada do 1/2.

throttleslide cutaway

jel ovo dvoje isto?

Zbunia sam tebe i sebe.

U uputama za dellorto stelanje se dijeli na 4 faze a,b,c,d.

Meni b i c faze nisu bas jasne. U b fazi je choosing the correct idle jet (ler dizna) and throttleslide cutaway is necessary ne kuzim

a u c fazi selection of both the atomiser (sta je ovo) and the tapered needle (igla)

a u ovoj hrvatskoj verziji se spominje klizni ventil gasa, e sad... jel to klipic gasa?