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« Odgovori #45 : Veljača 21, 2011, 08:52:41 »
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Nema razlike u konačnoj brzini i snazi motora s nikasilom/kromom i dobro odrađenom košuljicom. Jedino je trajnost veća
S budalama se ne isplati raspravljati, jer prvo te spuste na svoj nivo, a onda te tu dotuku iskustvom...

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« Odgovori #46 : Ožujak 03, 2011, 15:06:06 »
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evo ovdje imate raspravu o nikasilu gdje se radi cak ima i o razradivanju masine :mrgreen:
http://www.125cc-club.com/php/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5701&start=30
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« Odgovori #47 : Ožujak 03, 2011, 16:07:08 »
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u aluminiju sa nikasilom razlika je u tome da se cilindar može jače naturpijati bez straha od pregrijavanja.. nikasil je vrlo vrlo tvrd materijal a gus je mekan metal i brzo se pregrije.. uzmimo u obzir da se preko njega hladi i klip, znači alu termo grupe se bolje hlade, s tim trpe jača naprezanja bez štetnih nuspojava.. dokaz tome je i da se prave sportske 2t jurilice oduvijek rade sa alu nikasil cilindrima.. neki proizvođači auta također koriste tu tehniku (honda mislim)

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« Odgovori #48 : Ožujak 03, 2011, 17:37:15 »
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pa sva auta s visoko turaznim masinama preko 8 000 koriste Nikasil,a sportska za trke obavezno,,ukljucujuci i Formulu 1, :wink:
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« Odgovori #49 : Ožujak 03, 2011, 17:40:12 »
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a u zadnjih par godina i svi motori.. svaki novi motor od 500+ccm ima alu blok..

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« Odgovori #50 : Ožujak 12, 2011, 21:11:48 »
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Eto da napomenem za ove koji imaju E90,CTX-a itd motorke i te dinde koje koriste Nikasil oblogu cilindra da sipaju Benzin BS-bez sumpora,,jer Sumpor on unistava Nikasil u kratkom roku,,,Amerika nema taj benzin BS ko mi pa se za njihovo trziste nekoristi Nikasil zbog Sumpora u Benzinu,,zariba zacas Flakserica,Motorka itd,za njih se radi Alusil njemu ne smeta Sumpor u Benzinu,,ok znaci Sipajte benzin BS ja znam da ga ima Benziska Petrol i OMW,za ostale neznam,, :wink:
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« Odgovori #51 : Ožujak 12, 2011, 22:36:41 »
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ovo je korisna informacija :palacgore:
Airsal 65ccm, Dellorto SHA 15/15, Tecnigas Next, polirana glava, pojacana "ja moren" radilica, siren i preradjen usis, preradjene usisne lamele, sireni i polirani blokovi, karter i ispuh,pojacano kvacilo, elektronsko 12V/80W

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« Odgovori #52 : Ožujak 12, 2011, 22:42:03 »
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ALUSIL je isto sto i NIKASIL.
 Razlika je u nazivu iz razloga sto je kompanija MAHLE zastitila naziv NIKASIL kao svoj izum.

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« Odgovori #54 : Ožujak 12, 2011, 23:32:15 »
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Ispricavam se,Mozda sam pogresio u detalju,ali je sustina moga misljenja ista. Nikasil se koristi u Americi takodje,ali ima drugacijih naziva zbog zastite brenda od strane MAHLE koju sam spomenuo. Razliciti proizvodjaci krste NIKASIL po svojoj volji. U ovom Slucaju, ALUSIL je druga prica.

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« Odgovori #55 : Ožujak 13, 2011, 09:57:30 »
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ljudi dobra vjest
stigla vam je na forum tvrtka koja se bavi niklanjem :palacgore:
pogledajte u ponudi

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« Odgovori #56 : Ožujak 13, 2011, 09:58:04 »
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Ispricavam se,Mozda sam pogresio u detalju,ali je sustina moga misljenja ista. Nikasil se koristi u Americi takodje,ali ima drugacijih naziva zbog zastite brenda od strane MAHLE koju sam spomenuo. Razliciti proizvodjaci krste NIKASIL po svojoj volji. U ovom Slucaju, ALUSIL je druga prica.

ne Nikasil ima sam jedan naziv u cjelom svejetu Nikasil(nickalsilici karbida) al su zbog skupe obnove Nikasila na Porseju zbog visokog sumpora u Benzinu,i Americkog trzista uveli ,,Alusil,, sadrži oko 78% aluminija i 17% silicija,,,Alusil, kada je urezan, će izložiti vrlo teško silicij talog. Silicij površina je porozna dovoljno za držanje ulja,,,,Alusil ima skroz drugaci hemiski sastav od Nikla i nema veze s Nikasilom ,,,Nikasil i jes naziv u cjelom svjetu od strane Mehle,,zato se i zove Nikasil svugdje,,,,,,,,a Alusil je izmislijo  Kolbenschmidt u Njemackoj,,,koja ima cak i ostale proizvode svoje ,,Karike ,Klipovi,blokovi itd,,sve pod znakom  Kolbenschmidt :mrgreen: :wink: neki dan sam kupovo karike za Golf 2 600KN kostaju  :wink:
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« Odgovori #57 : Ožujak 13, 2011, 12:28:22 »
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Ja hocu da kazem da se Nikasil koristi i u americi i danas,a koliko sam procitao, ALUSIL je porse uveo neko kratko vreme zbog smanjenja troskova,....

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Nikasil is a trademarked electrodeposited lipophilic nickel matrix silicon carbide coating for engine components, mainly piston engine cylinder liners. It was introduced by Mahle in 1967, initially developed to allow rotary engine apex seals (NSU Ro80 and C111) to work directly against the aluminum housing. This coating allowed aluminum cylinders and pistons to work directly against each other with low wear and friction. Unlike other methods, including cast iron cylinder liners, Nikasil allowed very large cylinder bores with tight tolerances and thus allowed existing engine designs to be expanded easily, the aluminium cylinders also gave a much better heat conductivity than cast iron liners, which is an important factor for a high output engine. The coating was further developed by US Chrome Corporation in the USA in the early 1990s (under the trade name of "Nicom"), as a replacement for hard-chrome plated cylinder bores for Mecury Marine Racing, Kohler Engines, and as a repair replacement for factory-chromed snowmobiles, dirt bikes, ATVs, watercraft and automotive V8 liners/bores.

Porsche started using this on the 1970 917 race car, and later on the 1973 911 RS. Porsche also used it on production cars, but for a short time switched to Alusil due to cost savings for their base 911. Nikasil cylinders were always used for the 911 Turbo and RS models. Nikasil coated aluminum cylinders allowed Porsche to build air-cooled engines that had the highest specific output of any engine of their time. Nikasil is still used in today's 911s with great success.

Nikasil was very popular in the 1990s. It was used by companies such as Audi, BMW, Ferrari and Jaguar Cars in their new engine families. However, the sulfur found in much of the world's low quality gasoline caused some Nikasil cylinders to break down over time [1], causing costly engine failures.

Nikasil or similar coatings under other trademarks are also still widely used in racing engines, including those used in Formula One and ChampCar. Suzuki currently uses a race-proven nickel phosphorus-silicon-carbide proprietary coating trademarked SCEM (Suzuki Composite Electro-chemical Material) to maximize cylinder size and improve heat dissipation, e.g., on the engine of the Suzuki TL1000S, V-Strom 650, and Hayabusa motorcycles.[1]

Engines using Nikasil:
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    * Aprilia RS125 And Aprilia SX/RX 125
    * Armstrong MT500 - Rotax engine cylinder lining
    * Chevrolet LT5 engine, designed by Lotus and used exclusively in the Corvette ZR-1
    * Citroën Visa twin
    * Citroën GS birotor wankel engine made by Comotor
    * Compact Radial Engines MZ34
    * BMW M52 I6, except exports to North America
    * BMW M52TU I6, same as M52 except with VVT on both camshafts
    * BMW M60 V8
    * BMW R80GS, as measure to reduce weight over cast-iron lined cylinders
    * BMW S1000RR, scheduled for early 2010 release.
    * Ferrari F50 V12
    * Ford RS200
    * Honda RS125R [2] - cylinder lining
    * Honda RS250R [3] - cylinder lining
    * Honda NSR 150SP
    * Honda XR650R
    * Jaguar AJ-V8, 1997 - 2000 (XK series VIN range 001036-042775, XJ V8 series VIN 812256-878717) [2]
    * Kawasaki KLX650R
    * KTM LC4
    * Kreidler Florett,Flory
    * Lambretta TS1
    * Lotus Esprit Turbo 2.2
    * Maserati Biturbo 2.0 V6 Engines
    * Moto Guzzi 850 T3 and derived engines
    * NSU Ro80
    * Porsche 912 engine ( engine in 917 car, not to be confused with the Porsche 912 car )
    * Porsche 911 1973+ (excluding some 1975-1978 911S)
    * Suzuki LTR450
    * Suzuki RGV250
    * Suzuki Raider R150
    * Tomos A55 engine
    * Tomos E90
    * Vespa T5
    * Sonex AeroVee Aircraft Engine [3]

    * Yamaha ATV motors
    * Yamaha WR250R
    * Ford Puma

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« Odgovori #58 : Ožujak 13, 2011, 12:30:33 »
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sve ti je na Engleskom  :lol:
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« Odgovori #59 : Ožujak 14, 2011, 09:52:32 »
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nisu upisali tomos ctx